What Is The Real Reason 12 Step Programs & Treamtment Centers Hate Suboxone/Methadone?

Twelve Step Programs & Treatment Center Vs Methadone & Suboxone

Treatment Centers & 12 Step Programs vs Methadone and Suboxone Treatment

Have you ever wondered why the majority of treatment centers and 12 step programs are dead set against maintenance drugs like Methadone and Suboxone?  Even though I was on maintenance drugs for almost fifteen years and suffered because of the stigma attached I never really thought about why.  Recently I came across a post, posted by recovery advocate Chad Sabora.

Post by Chad Sabora about Suboxone

It was posted on Overdose Awareness Day and I had seen countless posts and pictures of people that shouldn’t be gone.  Young people who didn’t get the chance to find recovery.  I used for twenty years, these kids were lucky if they made it two years.  There is a big difference in my story and most of those who lost their lives to opioid addiction.  I was on either Suboxone or Methadone for fifteen years and because of that I never graduated to heroin.

I didn’t go to twelve step meetings and all the years I was on methadone I used other substances, that is my experience, but I lived.  I am here to write this blog, and without a doubt, if I hadn’t taken that path I would have found heroin and more than likely I would be dead.

So if Suboxone and Methadone work so well, which they do.  Why are they so hated?  Why do many treatment centers steer people away from these treatments?  Why isn’t everyone with opioid addiction taking advantage of the single most successful treatment available today?

Let’s see what they offer you instead of Methadone/Suboxone/Subutex Treatment…

If you haven’t looked into putting someone into treatment recently you might be in for a few surprises.  Did you know that it isn’t uncommon for the monthly rate to be between 15,000 and 30,000 a month for a moderate treatment center?  The higher-end centers can run as high as 53,000 a month.  Now that price is cash pay.  When the insurance is being billed they are often seeing bills for as much as 100,000 a month.  So what do you get for all that money?  Here are the most common therapies being used in treatment centers as we speak.

12 Step Programs

Most treatment centers revolve around the 12 steps.  The patients go to meeting after meeting during treatment.  They also take their patients out to community 12 Step meetings several nights a week.  Don’t get me wrong, 12 Step Meetings are awesome and it saves many lives, including my father.  The problem is that it’s not for everyone.  Some people don’t believe in a higher power, as much as people don’t want to hear that.  It’s true.

AA or NA works for not even 50% of the people that enter their doors.   There are some who say the numbers are more like 5% get help in these programs.

Treatment centers take their patients out at night to meetings in the community at least a couple nights a week.  How much does this treatment cost the treatment center?

ZERO, meetings are free, unless you are in a treatment center, cause you are being charged.


AA is Free



Now I love a good massage but I don’t think it’s going to keep me from chasing dope.

Equine Therapy

Doesn’t that sound fun?  Especially when they show the horses running along the beach.  The rider looks free don’t they.  Except that isn’t reality.  Really you are going to visiting horses, not taking them off by yourself down the beach.  You will get to pet them, brush them, feed them some corn or an apple.  You might even be asked to shovel some shit while you are there.  Now don’t get me wrong I love horses.  I used to ride myself but it’s strange to me that for 200 or more a session anyone believes that this is going to have anything to do with someone like me finding recovery.  IF THIS WORKED I WOULDN’T BE HERE WRITING THIS.


Equine Therapy

So what do treatment centers, Big Book Thumpers, and some “advocates” think about using Suboxone and Methadone along with these other options?

It is only speculation, but one obvious answer is that residential/inpatient programs have a financial incentive to detox people and tell them that recovery without medication-assisted treatment is better. If a patient is choosing to go on methadone or Suboxone, inpatient treatment is unnecessary in the vast majority of cases., many of the staff in these programs are recovering from alcohol use disorders (AUDs). They simply do not understand that opioid use disorders (OUDs) are substantially different, though of course there are some commonalities.



Research shows that maintenance or long-term use of Suboxone (prescribed by specially certified physicians) or methadone (dispensed by special clinics that must be visited daily) not only helps individuals remain free from addiction to such opioids as prescription painkillers and heroin, it lowers death rates and prevents complications of addiction such as infections. The National Institute on Drug Abuse provides background information on these medications and how they work, as does the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Administration (SAMHSA).

Here are some of the responses I received from representatives of the rehabs I recently queried about whether they use or recommend Suboxone past the detox phase of treatment:

  • “Short answer, no. Suboxone is a temporary solution for a permanent problem.”
  • “You can get strung out on Suboxone as badly as on heroin.”
  • “Oh no, absolutely not. We do not discharge them on Suboxone.” When I mentioned that the scientific literature reports that people do better on maintenance Suboxone than not, I was told, “The scientific literature is false. I’ve been doing this for 20 years.”
  • “We’re abstinence-based. Our success is getting to the underlying issues and we can’t get to those when they’re under the influence of narcotic or other medications.”

Technically, Suboxone and methadone are opioid medications, and opioids are sometimes called narcotics. (Suboxone is a combination of buprenorphine and the medication, naloxone, which is added to decrease its potential for misuse.) Both block cravings and drug seeking – they do not produce a high or impair functioning when properly prescribed.

The notion that these are ‘narcotics’ that prevent people from doing intensive therapy when used properly is ridiculous; the converse is true.-DR. MARK WILLENBRING

If someone treated with them uses an opioid such as heroin, the euphoric effects are usually dampened or suppressed. “The notion that these are ‘narcotics’ that prevent people from doing intensive therapy when used properly is ridiculous; the converse is true.”-DR. MARK WILLENBRIN, -founder, and CEO of Alltyr treatment clinic and former Director of the Division of Treatment and Recovery Research of the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism at the National Institutes of Health (NIH).

Another reason is the fear of Suboxone Diversion, which means selling to other people. Studies suggest that most diversion occurs when people addicted to opioids are trying to get off them and don’t have medical access to Suboxone. It is very rare in the U.S. for people to use Suboxone in an attempt to get high.

  • How is Opioid Use Disorder ( OUD) different than Alcohol Use Disorder (AUDs)? According to Dr. Saxon: Opioids affect the brain (and the body—because we have opioid receptors on our smooth muscle and our gut) differently than alcohol. So the substance effects, the intoxication, the withdrawal and the ultimate changes that occur long term in brain and body after years of exposure are bound to be different. Fully explicating the differences on a cellular or molecular level is probably a Nobel Prize-winning endeavor! But it all means that treatment needs are not just the same as for AUDs.
    • Is there any evidence that residential treatment is valuable for OUDs?

    Dr. Saxon: There is no evidence that I know of for the standard 28-day programs, and we do know that risk of overdose is high after leaving one of those programs if patients are not continued on Suboxone or methadone. There is evidence for therapeutic communities – residential facilities where patients stay six months or longer. Of course, such programs are few and far between.

    • The CEO (also an addiction psychiatrist) of a company that owns a group of prominent rehabs directed me to a large Australian study, pointing out that one-year outcomes showed that medication maintenance treatment and residential treatment were equally effective. Why do we seldom hear about this study?

    Dr. Saxon: One cannot generalize from Australia to the U.S. – they have a very different health care system than we do. Also, there were multiple problems with the study design – for instance, it was not randomized, and the researchers don’t even report if there were baseline differences between the groups. And all outcome data were based totally on self-report so we have no objective findings.

    • It’s often stressed that whenever maintenance medications are prescribed for OUDs, counseling is also important. But haven’t a number of recent studies shown that counseling confers no added benefit to the medication alone?

    Dr. Saxon: Such studies relate specifically to office-based treatment with Suboxone and not to methadone maintenance. The findings are consistent in showing that outcomes were not improved when either drug counseling or cognitive-behavioral therapy were added to use of Suboxone and medical management alone. So in early treatment, it is the medication (Suboxone) that is causing the majority of change. Keep in mind that these studies only look at patients in the first several months of treatment, so we really don’t know the effects of behavioral interventions later on.

    Moreover, it’s important to realize that the physicians prescribing the medication in these studies received training on how to do gold standard medical management which includes important behavioral components. So the real message is that if you have a caring and competent physician prescribing buprenorphine who asks the right questions and makes the needed suggestions, adding on more behavioral interventions may not make a huge difference. All physicians out in practice may not have these skills, though they are not difficult to learn. In methadone treatment, it is pretty clear that the medication plus standard drug counseling is better than simply giving medication alone.

    • What if people with OUDs have co-occurring psychiatric problems? I would think this is a big exception to the “no counseling benefit” finding, one that impacts many individuals.

    Dr. Saxon: Very good point, and we don’t fully know the answer because individuals with severe psychiatric disorders are mostly screened out of such studies (many in the studies might have mild to moderate psych disorders.) However, patients with psychiatric disorders need psychotherapy and/or pharmacotherapy directed at their psychiatric disorders, not more behavioral interventions that address their addiction per se.


    • Some rehabs prefer Vivitrol to Suboxone, arguing that “head-to-head,” they are equally effective. Is this true?

    Dr. Saxon: Actually, there is far more evidence supporting the efficacy of Suboxone (and methadone) than injectable naltrexone or (Vivitrol). Only one clinical trial was done in Russia (which does not permit Suboxone or methadone) supports injectable naltrexone, and that’s the one on which the Food and Drug made its decision to approve Vivitrol for OUDs. Right now, an ongoing study funded by the National Drug Abuse Treatment Clinical Trials Network is comparing the effectiveness of Suboxone versus Vivitrol for OUDs. Using naltrexone does require withdrawal off opioids for about a week before starting it, so it is more complicated in that way than using the other maintenance medications. However, if someone can make it through the withdrawal and wants to try Vivitrol, I wouldn’t have any qualms about it but would monitor the person carefully and be quick to switch to Suboxone if the person isn’t doing well. (The risk of overdose may be higher with naltrexone than with Suboxone or methadone if clients drop out or stop medications, but it’s a risk with any of the medications, and all patients should be warned.)

    • The CEO of the rehabs defended not using Suboxone at their “abstinence-based facilities,” by saying that their patients will be going to AA and NA in the community and that 12-step programs don’t see Suboxone and methadone users as abstinent, even though the medical world does. He said, “We don’t control how the recovery community sees the world. So our big focus has been on Vivitrol.”

    Dr. Saxon: So their reasoning is that the AA groups are not following the actual precepts and stated policy of AA, which is to accept people who are on medications prescribed by physicians? And the rehab program is not doing the medically correct thing so as to make their patients fit into AA groups that are running AA incorrectly and judging people? They should be out there trying to get AA groups to practice AA the right way. However, if they can get Vivitrol to work, wonderful, I’m all for it.

    • How do costs compare between the various forms of maintenance treatment, and how likely is insurance to cover them?

    Dr. Saxon: Methadone costs between $300-400 per month, which includes medication, medication dispensing, medical evaluation, counseling, and urine testing. Suboxone medication cost would be about $300-400 per month retail. Physician and counseling fees would be additional. Vivitrol is about $1000 per dose with one dose per month. Physician and counseling fees would be additional. Medicaid covers all these treatments in many states but exact coverage varies from state to state. Private insurance often covers them (variations from policy to policy, obviously), but what I hear from physicians in private practice is that it is a huge hassle to get prior authorization at times.*

    *Costs for primary care treatment [initial phase] at the adult residential facilities I checked into ranged from 5,000 to about $55,000 for a 28- to a 30-day stay.

    Dr. Saxon: I agree. I will have a commentary coming out in the journal Addiction this year, which makes the very same point. We need to improve our retention rates dramatically. However, saying that one treatment is suboptimal does not mean the other treatment (rehab) is necessarily better.

    Twelve Step Meetings, aside from treatment centers have in my opinion interpreted the Big Book in a way that Bill W. and Dr. Bob didn’t intend.  Of course, I could be wrong.  I just cannot imagine the Dr. Bob would be ok with people stopping their psych meds, that end up committing suicide or all the people that don’t use Suboxone or Methadone due to the stigma.  So many of those people end up dead because of an overdose.  They would not want that.

    Let me also just say that I am not against rehab. I have just met so many families whose loved ones have gone through rehab many times and continue to use opioids. Rehab alone probably works for some, but when it doesn’t, we need to be quick to try medication.

    I am also not saying everyone needs these meds.  I just want people to have choices, we are all different.  We learn differently and we recover differently.

    Dead people don’t recover…ever…let’s keep them alive and not beat them up more in the process.

    AA's Views on other forms of recovery






Using Drugs While Pregnant

Using Drugs While Pregnant

Using Drugs While Pregnant

Using drugs while pregnant

Everyone has a strong opinion about those who continue to abuse substances while pregnant.   Even those who suffer from the same disease.  Drugs aside,  women are hard on each other.  Mothers are even worse.  Mothers judging one another is out of hand when drugs aren’t in the picture.  We have all been guilty of it in some way or another.  “OMG, JoAnn lets Jake drink apple juice, it’s full of sugar,  I only give my girl water!” said one of the perfect moms in my family.  You would think I was giving him heroin or something.  Add drugs to the situation, and everyone becomes judge and jury.

Imagine you are suffering from the disease of addiction and find yourself pregnant.

We aren’t talking about smoking pot or drinking now and then.  Your drug of choice is opiates.  It doesn’t matter what form you take them in, pills or heroin.  If you wind up pregnant, you have a serious problem on your hands.  If you are an addict that used opiates ask yourself.  Would you be able to lay the drug down?  It’s true that some women could and do.  They find out they are expecting and they stop never to look back again until sometime after the child is born.  There are a few that never touch the drug again.

Most in this position will end up on Methadone or Suboxone.

There are lots of expecting mothers at the Methadone Clinics in Louisville, KY where I took either Methadone or Suboxone off and on for fifteen years.  These women while waiting in line told me that withdrawal while pregnant is very dangerous to the baby.  So much so that doctors feel that allowing the mother Methadone or Suboxone is safer than quitting cold turkey.  With Methadone/Suboxone dispensed at a clinic the OBGYN at least knows what drug is being introduced to the baby and how much.  If these women were buying drugs off the street, there’s no telling what their dealer is cutting the drug with, not to mention the threat of Fentanyl now.  The clinics also drug test regularly so her OBGYN doesn’t have to bother with any of that.  In the end, the baby is indeed born addicted to Methadone but had the mother continued to use on the street the chances are too high that both mom and baby could die of an overdose.

What if there are no Methadone/Suboxone Clinics around for you to use this safety net for you and your unborn child.

Would you be able to put the drug down and walk away?  My first reaction to this question is yes!! I would just put it down no question.  The truth though isn’t that simple. There is no way I can say that honestly though.  I believe that addicts are compassionate people.  After they take drugs or drink for the first time, they discover what it is NOT to have their feelings exploding with emotion.  If an addict is in love,  IT IS dark LOVE.  If you hurt them, IT HURTS BAD.  More often than not just say sorry and give it some time.  They will forgive you.  Once we find a substance that makes a living with our immense feelings bearable, we aren’t giving it up easy.

The problem is that drugs have such a horrible stigma that now we are numbing those old emotions but are also developing massive amounts of shame and guilt because of the using.  Now we have to use more to cover those feelings up too.  If I found myself pregnant and continued to use the pain that would cause within myself would be debilitating.  Which would cause me to use and use hoping against hope to forget even for a moment the situation I was putting my unborn child in.

What happens if a woman is caught using while pregnant?

Put her in jail and throw away the key, right?  Do you think she wanted to harm her baby?  No, she didn’t.  It doesn’t matter though because in America we call Addiction a disease, but we don’t treat it like one.  If she had diabetes, one of those severe cases, while pregnant and continued to eat cookies and drink soda putting her unborn child and herself in danger no one would suggest jail for that woman.   That is because we treat Diabetes like a disease and Addiction like a moral failing.

Female addicts are some of the harshest critics of mothers who continue to use.  

We have to stop doing this to one another.  We need to stick together.  All of us have done at least one thing that we are not proud of while using.  So I had sex for money, and she used drugs while pregnant.  Who am I to judge her?  We were and are sick.  We made and make mistakes.  Why not work together?  We have enough people judging and hating us simply for using drugs.  Our people should be a safe spot.

To the mothers reading this,

Whether you have the disease of addiction or not.  STOP BEING SO HATEFUL TO OTHER MOMS.  Parents need to uplift one another.  Addicts need to remember just how hard it was to quit using and how many times they slipped up.  So what you were lucky enough not to find yourself expecting a baby in the middle of it.  Thank goodness huh, cause it’s more likely than not that you would have continued to use too.

You can never go wrong with kindness.

Did Maintenance Drugs Save Me From Heroin?

Did Maintenance Drugs Save Me From Heroin?

I wonder often if maintenance drugs saved me from heroin addiction.  My story is a little different from most of the stories I have heard.  I guess all of our stories are different when it comes down to it but here is a little of mine.  Fifteen years of my twenty-year addiction to opiates was spent on either Methadone or Suboxone.


On my first trip to the Methadone Clinic in Southern Indiana, I traded a Loratab habit for Methadone.  That’s the equivalent of trading a monkey on your back for King Kong.  I had no idea what I was getting myself into.  When I got to the clinic no one told me that I would be addicted to this as well but if I am being truthful it wouldn’t have mattered if they had beat it into me.  There was no way I wanted to continue hunting pills and I wanted to feel secure knowing I wasn’t breaking the law. The main thing though is that I did not want to be sick.  I was scared to death of it.  Makes no sense that someone terrified of a Loratab withdraws would start Methadone.  The withdraw is ten times harder easy.  There was no way for me to know this at the time.  I soon found out though.


During that Fifteen years I relapsed several times, and each time I went out I moved up to the next level opiate.  So after Loratabs, I went to Percocet.  My relapses always happen because I would try to ween myself off of Methadone as fast as possible.  The stigma that came along with the clinic was painful.  I didn’t want to be a slave to anything.  I was doomed to fail every time though.


So this is what my relapses looked like.  This is the order of opiates I used.  Each time you see a new drug that means a relapse.

  1. Loratabs
  2. Methadone
  3. Percocet
  4. Methadone
  5. Oxy’s
  6. Methadone
  7. Opana
  8. Methadone
  9. Suboxone

Xanax was part of the mix the entire way except for the last few months of suboxone. That was only because my source was no longer able to get ahold of them any longer.

My family hated the idea of Methadone or Suboxone.  As far as they are concerned I was still using just the same as if I were taking the pills.  So I always hid the fact that I was on any maintenance drugs so I was still hiding and full of shame.  There was no room for recovery when I couldn’t own the path that I was on.

In the end, I ended up being very resentful of the clinic.  They mislead me to believe that Suboxone was not addictive.  They swore that I would be able to just walk off of it whenever I was ready. As we all know now that is the farthest thing from the truth.  To be fair I was told this when Suboxone first came out.  Who knows maybe they honestly didn’t know. After I was on it for some time the Clinic told me that they were wrong and that I would have to ween down to come off of the drug.


I didn’t take the time to really think about what the clinic did for me because I was so focused on the drawbacks.  As you see from the list above I never made to heroin. If it were not for the clinic I would have for sure.  A few of the times I ended up back at the clinic it was because I was having trouble finding the drug that I wanted. What if someone had offered me heroin?  I would have taken it.   Probably after the Opana is when I would have eventually run into heroin.  There were numerous times when I was just taking pills that I was afraid to go to sleep.  I was mixing the Xanax with as many pills as I could get my hands on.  Heroin would have killed me for sure.


The clinic allowed me to have years where I wasn’t moving in the circles of drug dealers or people buying on the streets.  I may not have been in recovery but I wasn’t engaging in illegal activities and I was living my life.  On Suboxone, I never felt high.  I just didn’t feel sick.  The clinic offered me counseling one a week which I took seriously.  That ended up helping me in many ways too.  If nothing else just for someone to talk to.  Holding down a job was easy because I never had to call off so I could hunt down my daily fix. Being a functioning member of society was possible on the maintenance drugs.


What made me hate Methadone and Suboxone the most though was the withdraw.  All I kept telling myself was what the hell was I thinking?  I couldn’t handle a few days of this crap that is why I started the clinic.  Now I was having to face months of it.  Where I went wrong was how quickly I weened off.  I have since had several friends that followed the clinics recommended detox and they claim to have felt little to no withdraw.  My biggest advice is this if you are thinking of starting maintenance drugs.

  1. If you are only taking Loratab don’t go to the clinic.  Sit down and deal with the few days of being a little sick.
  2. If you start the clinic don’t go higher than fifty and for suboxone don’t take more than 8.  The higher you go the longer it will take to ween down and the more likely it will be that you decide to leave.
  3. When you do decide to leave follow the clinic’s recommendations for lowering your dose.

If you love someone suffering from addiction and they have decided to take Methadone or Suboxone please don’t judge them.  The worst thing you can do is to make them feel as though they have to hide things from you.  As long as they are taking this medication they more than likely won’t be taking heroin…which means they will live.  If we die we cannot recover.  Please remember that.


All The Gifts

Suboxone Was My Road To Recovery

Not Anonymous, JoAnn MillerPeople don’t realize it, but the people in the addiction/recovery community work hard.  I got to thinking today about how I could measure success with the work I do.  Up until three weeks ago all I did was write in my blogs and spread awareness through posters/memes and news stories on social media. So how do you measure success with something so difficult to measure?

IF I HELP ONE PERSON, IT WILL BE WORTH IT.  We have probably all said, thought or at the very least heard this in our community.  So I have good news for you all.  Here goes:

Entering this community  I was on Suboxone but wasn’t working a program, and my life sucked.  Just like an addict, I didn’t go through the front door, I snuck around back and climbed in the window.  My road to recovery was Suboxone, period point blank ( suboxone saved my life, and this is just my story I believe whatever works- work it) I didn’t need a sponsor, meetings, a higher power or any of that, just Suboxone.  I was adamant about it.  After relapsing too many times to count in the past 20 years, I figured Suboxone was the best route for me.

I went to war with my family and my doctor over staying on Suboxone and being accepted for it.  So if I knew anything at all entering this community it was that I was an addict and I would be on Suboxone for the rest of my life.  I was 43.

If you had told me the day I snuck in that window that I would own a blog with traffic, would be working with a radio station and three of the coolest guys in the recovery community, I wouldn’t have believed you.

The past year of my life has been one crazy ride.  I gave up drugs and picked up a mission. The day I typed addiction into the search bar on Facebook, I was shocked.  I was an active regular social Facebook user, and I had no idea that this world, our world, even existed.  You would think I would have run into a meme or something, but no, nothing.

Within one year this community has turned my life around.  You gave me the strength to give up the Suboxone.  I learned that I am a whole lot tougher than I thought I was.  I found skills that I didn’t know I had and self-worth that I never had.  I have a resume that doesn’t have one single lie on it, and it still looks impressive.  I sold a business and opened three more.  I got two incredible opportunities to continue doing awareness work, but now I can eat too.

Now my friends are writers, artists, lawyers ( that I didn’t have to hire ) paralegals, and so much more.  You’ve taken the time to teach me and to build me up.  In this past year, you have given me life-enriching skills, relationships, experiences and even things to look forward to.

So I wanted to give you guys this Chrismas gift early.  Once I figured out the amazing gift that you guys gave me this year.  I couldn’t wait to give yours to you.

Thank you, for saving ME.


RecoveryRadio.FM Review


December 1st RECOVERYRADIO.FM went live out of Palm Beach, Florida. Three huge names in recovery are hosting the show, RJ ViedJames Sweasy and Bobble. These guys are all forces in the recovery community but together WOW, you can expect lots of inspiration, differences of opinions and thanks to Bobble every topic will be explained so that everyone will understand completely.

The show runs for three hours every Tuesday and Thursday from 9 pm to 11 pm on

96.1FM for Pompano to West Palm / 97.5FM for West Palm to Jupiter/ 1340AM for all of West Palm County. You can also watch the show live on RECOVERYRADIO.FM OR on Facebook at www.facebook.com/recoveryradio.fm

If you aren’t familiar with these guys, let me tell you a little about them from my perspective.

RJ Vied is a Recovery Advocate who is a talented writer, speaker and all around genuine guy. I guess you could say he is the eye candy of the show…at least that’s what all the ladies are saying but don’t take my word for it, check him out yourself. You can follow RJ Vied on Facebook at www.facebook.com/rjvied. Don’t think that means he is just pretty to look at, this guy has a genuine passion for reaching the addict still suffering and supporting those in recovery. RJ Vied is a triple threat, intelligent, talented and honorable. The eye candy part is just a bonus.

James Sweasy is one of those magnetic guys that when they talk you just know you need to listen. Sweasy is from my hometown Louisville, KY and his no-nonsense approach to recovery has made him one of the most followed Public Persona’s in Recovery, and he is just getting started. Sweasy’s fans are die hard and with Sweasy’s creative video angles and call it like it is approach this guy going to be HUGE…ok he already is huge so how about Enormous. Relatable is Sweasy’s middle name. If you aren’t a Sweasy Fan, you need to hope on over to www.facebook.com/jamessweasy and learn you a thing or two. That’s what us Kentuckiana’s like to say.

Last but not least is Bobble. Bobble is a musician that is rocking the recovery world with his relatable rhythms and hip hop recovery music. I don’t know a bunch about Bobbleother than thank goodness for him being on this show. Sure enough, when I am scratching my head about some odd term, idea or recovery approach Bobble is quick to say, HUH? Please explain that so we all can understand it. You can follow Bobble at www.facebook.com/bobblemuzikRAW

I am going to give www. recoveryradio.fm a ten on a scale of 1-10. If you missed the show last night, you could listen to it on their website www.recoveryradio.fm anytime.

Be sure to check out their next show every Tuesday and Thursday. They encourage people to call in but remember this isn’t a podcast so no swearing or you will be disconnected immediately.

RECOVERYRADIO.FM is a great concept with incredible talent, I look for this show to have a long successful run. Congrats guys, we will be listening, that is for sure.

Rockin Recovery On My Own Terms

We’re all talking about how nonaddicts stigmatize those of us with the disease of addiction, but more concerning to me is the way we, who suffer from the same disease, stigmatize and judge each other for traveling a different road to recovery. How did we get so righteous and indignant?

Why are we not overjoyed when a desperate sick and suffering human being stops using dirty needles, stealing from their kid’s piggy banks, or any other insane act in order to get money to get high just one more time. How can we possibly say we’re in recovery working the program, but in the same breath tell another addict they’re not really clean because they’re on Suboxone, Methadone or whatever maintenance drug they need to not do the low down, grimy shit they were doing the day before to try and recapture that 1st high.

Where is the empathy and compassion people need at this fragile time in their life? People in N.A., which I love because that’s where I learned there was a way out of that madness, say I’m not in recovery and can’t take on a commitment if I’m on MAT’s, or chair a meeting. Bill W. said some place in a letter before he died I think, and this is not a quote, but his hopes were for A.A. to evolve alongside modern medicine and science. I’m clean and in recovery and I take Suboxone and I’m fuckin proud of it.

I used to be one of those rigid nazi’s for many years who thought abstinence is the ONLY way, but God decided to show me where I was mistaken. There are people that have double digit years of abstinence and that’s all it is. They wouldn’t know a step if they tripped over it. They’re miserable and hateful, but like to tell me I’m not in recovery or can’t be part of their elite club because I take a prescribed medicine from my Dr. So be it. Say what you will. I know what I am!

I have a sponsor in A.A. an oldtimer, historian who has taken me through the 12 steps and no one nowhere is going to tell me I’m not really clean! So if you’re not robbing your mother and collapsing every vein in your body for one more shot of pure, uncut misery, Congratulations! Welcome to recovery! Don’t let anyone tell you you’re not really clean or you have to do it their way. You just keep rockin it any way you can, and I pray you find your path to never ending recovery. For now, just don’t use for 1 day, and try to be a little better person than you were yesterday. I promise you will find your way to a life second to none.

Author: Carla Marotto